It doesn’t matter what I say or you say, just look at twitch viewers Sat 1pm est were at 58… this speaks for itself.
When the clueless dev surrounds themselves with insiders like you, the game fails as quick as Retold has.
“twitch viewers” lol game had more than a month without streamers being able to cast games because of spectator mode bug. They seem to have fixed that now. Anyway, AoE 4 players and streamers were crying about the game being dead and having no attention, one big patch made them happy again.
The thing is: AoM RE is much better than TT and EE were. The major changes like god powers being reusable were accepted by the vast majority of players and streamers I know.
There are problems, for sure, but you sound a bit to desperate. Have you been playing EE or TT last couple of years? I really doubt it.
One more thing: there were many reasons why AoM TT “died”. EE was a total mess. Retold managed to bring AoM back and is a really fun game for most people who were playing TT and EE. You dislike it, ok, your right. But dont act like your frustration speaks for the community.
There are MANY constructive discussions around here, your topics are always destructive like “the game is CRAP and I want vanilla back!!”
PS: balance was ALWAYS a problem in AoM.
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atlanteans or norse? lol
again: I agree there are things to be fixed about balance and I really dont like that much most of last patch balance changes, but yes, game ibalance is kinda decent.
The Atlanteans are completely broken definitely.
Reasons why the Atlanteans are completely superior to other pantheons:
- Their villagers gather resources twice as fast and do not require a site to deposit their resources
- The economic improvements of the villagers make them gather resources extremely fast which is a notable advantage over other pantheons.
- The Atlanteans can turn all their soldiers including their scouts and villagers into heroes (a small group of villagers can defeat a mythical unit). It is absurd that the Atlantean villagers despite being very superior and not needing a resource deposit can also turn into heroes to improve even more.
- The powers of the Atlanteans are the best, the deconstruction power can make your rival unable to defend himself at the start of the game while you can do it, this is a clear disadvantage for any rival except the Atlanteans. The power “Chaos” followed by the power “Shockwave” can destroy an entire army totally unfair. The implode power can eliminate an entire army and practically in a 1 vs 1 battle it is a victory for the Atlanteans.
- The Atlanteans can teleport any military building anywhere on the map
- The Atlanteans can heal units “Heroic renewal” upgrade to auto-regenerate the health of all heroes
- The Atlanteans have the best mythic units in the game
- The Atlanteans can use several air passages.
- The Atlanteans have horse archers, a group of turmas can eliminate all your villagers and they practically have no rival since they are fast and attack from a distance."
- Atlanteans can spam long range archers heroes and can upgrade to fire arrows. An army of Arcus heroes can defeat several armies, even anti-archer cavalry armies.
- The Atlanteans collect favor twice as fast since they only have to move a few scouts around the map. (scouts turned into heroes improve favor collection)
- The Atlanteans have the best siege units in the game and can even be turned into heroes.
- The Atlanteans have the best sea units. The Man O’ War is practically a son of Osiris who attacks from the sea.
- The Atlanteans have two types of towers and their walls are the best.
many of your points are exclusive to a specific god, not all civ.
I agree atty are the “easiest” civ, but chill, mate, it they are so OP, why norse are always on top of stats?
that site “it is not endorsed by or affiliated with Microsoft.” = they can manipulate the list however they want.
The real problem with Atlanteans occurs when you are in a team against multiple Atlantean players. They only spam archer heroes or cavalry heroes and spam vortex every 3 minutes all over the map since Atlanteans gain favor very easily, unlike norse who have to fight to gain favor.
I can’t really speak about balance cause I don’t play that much. But I’m pretty sure every pro players thinks that Atlanteans are in a pretty decent spot. They might have certain advantages. But nearly everyone agrees that they are not broken.
Yeah Norse has it really hard in that regard. Got a game which went ultra late game and the last survivors were me as Freyr and my enemy as Zeus. He basically stomped me with his giant favour pool with “dozens” of titans and underworlds here and there every like 2 min or so.
But I think the just “fighting to gain favour” isn’t that true. I really thought that always (silly me I guess) but if you train heroes you gain favour aswell - if I would just fight with e.g berserks and axemen I gain favour even harder than with godi and especially hersir. Just wanted to throw that out not too into those details really.
You claim that while presenting a screenshot where 4 out of the top 5 are Nordic gods 111111
that site “it is not endorsed by or affiliated with Microsoft.” = they can manipulate the list however they want
And what are the shady and obscure motives behind altering this data?
But in any case, I suppose our wonderful company behind our wonderful game has its own website, as one would expect, to display the results, right? What’s the link to access it?
“kinda decent” and I also said many times balance needs some fixes. Idk if you simply decided to not understand or if you just cant do it.
Norse are the real problem at the moment. You presented many points about atty which are specifc to a certain god.
Think about norse:
- “drop site” can move with villagers and on Retold can be built again everywhere.
- if norse gets raided, they can convert vills in berserkers and kill raiding units.
- norse can simply build around the whole map without risking vills.
- there is no weakness in norse army right now.
- they can easily spam heroes and myth units.
- special villager costing and collecting gold faster than any other civ.
- best economy.
- can build TCs with army, not risking anything and being able to steal opponent TCs much easier.
- 3 of them have Flaming Weapons, best heroic age god power BY FAR.
etc…
I agree there are many things that should be fixed, but one cannot say Retold has worst balance than EE or TT. Only civ underwhelming and suffering are greeks at the moment, since they have no special advantages.
The Atlanteans are superior to all other pantheons. For starters, flaming weapons can be countered with a ceasefire. Does it seem fair to you that the Atlanteans move their entire army to any part of the enemy base every 2 minutes? That’s way better than building barracks with military units. All pantheons build TCs when the enemy’s base is destroyed. Your arguments don’t make sense. It’s obvious that there’s a huge imbalance that favors the Atlanteans. The Atlanteans were made by taking advantages of all the other pantheons.
flaming weapons can be countered with a ceasefire.
Chaos can also be countered by ceasefire. And so does mass teleportation.
Does it seem fair to you that the Atlanteans move their entire army to any part of the enemy base every 2 minutes?
Moving entire army is not free. If they do that They are doing it at the cost of not producing myth units.
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All living in perfect harmony… until fire the dev decided to invade air the dev.
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An Atlantean can gain up to 360 favor every 5 minutes just by moving his scouts around the edges of the map, an Atlantean in Mythic Age can spam the Vortex power with Mythic units every 2 minutes since the favor spent is very little compared to the favor they gain per minute. Practically the ceasefire is incapable of countering that spam of Atlantean powers.
10 hero oracles costs 20 favor, 800 food, 1200 gold. and with all that they will still need additional upgrades, yet still you need to find some where safe for them. In most matches this is far from achievable.
Don’t bother with that guy. He’s been spamming his point over and over and over on the forums, getting debunked over and over again, then denies the counter evidece he’s presented with by brushing it off as the data being manipulated since it’s not directly by microsoft. Provides no evidence that the data actually is manipulated, simply claims that it must be because it’s community made, and continues to argue that Atlanteans are OP.
It’s talking to a wall.
Just ignore him. He’ll get bored if he can’t get people to engage with his point anymore.
He’s either a troll, or an Atlantean main, who’s using reverse psychology to stop Atlanteans from getting any nerfs in the future, until they are legitimately as OP as he claims them to be rn, by demanding a major nerf, he know they don’t need, and being annoying about it.
Edit: Or bad at the game, and not mature enough to admit that to himself, which is probably the most likely.
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