Quick game feature will be unranked.
It will probably uses the unranked elo which is visible at aoe2.net for example to match players, but thing about this arent confirmed by the devs as far as i know. They only said is will be an unranked feature. So everything else is speculation. We need to wait till the patch notes to be sure.
As @WoodsierCorn696 mentioned. Lets wait how Quick play match work. I think it is good idea to separate the purpose of Quick game and Ranked Game.
It would be good to allow flexible setting for each player in Quick game feature such as queuing on one Specific map. It can be Arabia/Arena or some minor map such as water map. Someone may want to play in specific map regardless of opponentâs elo.
It is unranked but it would be good to consider playerâs Elo in matchmaking. Then, complaints of not getting their favorite map in ranked play can somewhat solved by that system.
I donât think that punishment such as elo loss etc. would prevent alt f4, honestly Iâd continue to alt f4 even if Iâd lose elo. The problem here is that what most of you assume is that this is a competitive game. This is just a game. However, in reality, many players just want to play a game with the settings they prefer. Itâs just a game, not the Olympics. Weâll see how the new quick play mode will be, maybe thatâs going to solve these issues.
I play this game since 1999 and Iâm on the brink of quitting the game due to the amount of time spent looking for a game. Matchmaking system of DE was a great improvement, and the preferred map option was yet another great improvement. We just have to continue fixing problems with the system. Player happiness should be the end goal. A lot of other games have many different game modes where players have a lot of agency on choosing what they can play.
Seems like your core argument is you just want to play with a specific setting. So play unranked and set up that specific setting.
If your concern is âwaste of timeâ because of having to wait for people to fill up your lobbies. Then isnât it a waste of time to queue into a game only to alt+f4 out of it and reload the game and requeue? Logic?.. Suppose it takes you 3 - 5 mins to queue up for a game, and then you alt +f4 and requeue⊠that doesnât mean the next match you get will be arabia, and therefore youâll queue for another 3-5 mins which ends up in another map which means you alt+f4 again totalling at least 6 minutes of waiting. So wouldnât it just make more sense to just make a lobby and not have to wait? Go get some water? Stretch your legs/arms etc while the lobby fills. At least youâll get a game that you will like. If you have concerns about eloâs not matching up, then specify in the lobby the game youâre looking for âno noobsâ or 1800+ or whatever your elo is. And you can filter out people as theyâre coming in. I donât know, it seems like youâre complaining about âgiving people optionsâ when we already have options⊠youâre just being picky about what options youâre given and making excuses about it.
Seems to me that the real point of this post is that âI want to win and lose elo with my favourite mapâ is the point of this whole thread.
At least Arabia is always an option that is given. I prefer nomad style maps and it looks like this time it wasnât added to the list so I wonât be playing my âfavourite mapâ but that wonât stop me from playing the game, or alt+ f4ing.
And people who complain about âyou better listen to your customers or Iâll leaveâ are the same people who complain about restaurants and threatening for refunds or threatening to take their business elsewhere⊠Itâs like⊠just go thenâŠ
Itâs a hassle to wait in the lobby. Iâm ok doing alt f4 at the moment rather than waiting in the lobby, but I was trying to improve this, thatâs why I opened the thread.
If the goal of the matchmaking system is to force players to accept multiple maps, itâs ok, but given the large amount of alt f4 and preference for Arabia style maps, it looks like there is mismatch between player preferences and developer preferences.
Maybe they can charge us for playing the maps we wanted, so itâd be a good monetization for the game while weâre not losing time in the queue for alt f4. I could buy bonus points to use for Arabia only queue or something.
Just give the players who ALT+F4 during matchmaking the usual ELO loss and put the other players back into queue with high priority (since they are only missing 1 player until complete). Might also work without the ELO loss by just putting the quitting player into a low priority queue.
CSGO is pretty straighforward. no bans, if you want to choose only 1 map, you can.
do you dodge it? a minor cooldown for your next queue.
I see another huge problem with no elo for premades. it screws the experience of those playing alone and with frineds constantly.
Clarify this hassle? Are you staring at the timer as opposed to an unranked lobby where youâre staring at people joining your lobby? Both involve waiting for a game to start. Just one has a timer to notify people of how long youâve been waiting, and how long before the game starts. As opposed to just waiting for a lobby to fill up and waiting for people to click âIâm readyâ.
Do you have any statistical data that proves your point of âlarge amount of alt f4â? Or is it just an opinion based on your own experience? I think matchmaking is perfect on its own, let there be variety. Itâs not like thereâs 1000 of different map types to choose from. Weâre given a handful of options to choose from, with both players (in 1v1) being allowed 2 bans which limits the map pool greatly and weâre given preferential choices as well⊠which increases the likelihood of our choice. Sounds fair to me. If you want to literally play just one map. All the time. Then as I said before, just wait in a lobby. Itâs about the same waiting time and youâll get the settings just as you like.
But I know how this argument is going to go. Youâre just going to stick to your stubborn headed idea of wanting to change something that is already fine. Adding more limitations to the map pool is just gonna make queueing longer.
I agree with the opinion of increasing wait times for those who alt f4. I think there should be a system in place where the first few times are passes with the rest thereafter being increased wait times.
Shouldnât ruin the experience for others when the solution is simply âmake a lobbyâ.
I wouldt ban them tho since he isnt probably the only one who does it and other people on this forum allready admitted to it too
i think a timeout and lower queue prio or like 5 minutes before requeueing would be enough since it not only about the map you like to play @Player211164448 its about everyone
You should be banned for doing this. you are abusing bug, and make advantage of it.
@SimilarSauce397 i find this judgment a bit harsh and honestly a limitation in ranked action seems more reasonable
there is no reason to instanly ban someone and make the game unappealing for people like him
its a rule to play ranked match, if you dont want to play with that rule you can just not play. Playing with your rules is not fair at allâŠ
100% agreed with OP, let people play what they want in ranked games. The current situation is really bad. Lobby games are not a reasonable alternative due to the additional time and effort required to find a balanced game. I doubt âQuick gameâ without ranking will result in fair games.
I think what OP doesnt get is how q times work. If you segment the playerbase (e.g. by prefered map type), q times skyrocket. We already have segmentation - by DM/RM, by Elo, by 1v1/teamgames. If you segment it further, you will make any map but arabia (and maybe Arena/BF) unplayable. And im pretty sure thats not what most people want.
If you want fun games, just play a lobby game
Donât ruin the game for others, ranked is a competitive scene and itâs not supposed to all fun and games
I reiterate for the third time. I can repeat again if needed.
This is not the Olympics. If you want to compete, join a tournament. Iâm not trying to cheat here, I want to only play random map Arabia, which is the major game mode in Aoe anyways⊠Playing ranked is a lot of fun due to finding opponents with similar levels and improving over time. Lobby is a lot of hassle, matchmaking system is very efficient.
Given we have a preferred map system, I would actually be okay waiting a little more for finding someone looking for Arabia rather than matching with someone who wants to play Megarandom or Socotra. At the moment, the only choice is for me to alt f4. I continue to use alt f4, but it would be nicer for all of us if the system have us the option to avoid alt f4 but simply allowing us to play the map we want.
Preferred map solves this problem 90% of the time by the way, so Iâm grateful for the devs for allowing that.
Doesnât mean you can irritate others by doing an Alt + F4
Still does not justify Alt + F4
And please stay on the game for the other 10%
You make the game unfun for others by doing an Alt + F4
Can we close this thread because it seems pointless to discuss this further with OP.
Nobody is talking about tournament or Olympics. We are just stating a fact that if you want your choice you can easily make a choice ro pick your favourite map in unranked lobbies. Otherwise donât ruin the game foe others.
A majority of the people prefer thus setup amd we still have the option to only play our favourite map by making unranked lobby. Stop making excuses for ruining the experience dor others.
End.
I feel like they should get an extra ELO loss just because theyâre ruining the game for 1-7 other people
This will just break Elo, without even fixing the problem. I do Alt-F4 as well, and I couldnât care less about Elo. I care about my time. Wanting to play only Arabia is a very legitimate request, that was available for 10+ years, yet the game doesnât allow me to express this constraint. Your suggestion consists mainly in blaming people for enjoying certain settings rather than blaming a flawed system.