Not the point. If some people start making smurfs, and playing people several hundred below their true ELO skills, a LOT of noobs are going to have a frustrating time.
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Smurf is another topic completely. Letās not discuss it here.
If you think punishing quitters leads to a lot of smurfs, we could detect associated accounts and permanently ban them
This just creates new problems instead of the old ones. I would think that driving away players is not the best approach. This seems like a brute force approach which probably isnāt a good idea when it comes to managing a community. If you keep kicking and banning players, then youāll just get people to play a competitorās games instead.
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The second step is removing civ picking and team positions.
Why not? We donāt need players with no moral at all. Wasting other peopleās time just for their own fun? Thatās ultimately shameless.
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Well from the perspective of team games, the problem seems to me that there arenāt any good community functionalities to help players form teams. I think once players are in teams, ALT+F4 is less likely, because people at least no longer bicker about position picking, also reduces quitting due to team mate quality, and the increased amount of bans also reduce the chance that people need to resort to ALT+F4 to avoid a map they donāt want to play.
The second problem, probably the more complex one, is that both ranked and custom lobbies are lackluster. In custom lobby, you can pick any map you like, but good luck getting a balanced distribution of skill. In ranked lobby, the lobby is plagued with people who refuse to play more than one map, so this spawns two types of ALT+F4:
- From people who ALT+F4 everything but their one true map.
- People who ALT+F4 maps that theyāre already bored of playing that day.
I would say that my issue with lobbies probably also affects 1v1, because even in 1v1 I donāt want to play 5 of any map in a row (while some people do not mind to play the same map for the whole day).
I hope you are as I, in saying this seriously. IT would be much better if ranked was full random in every aspect
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Then my friend will do alt+f4 and he will join from the second account laterā¦ We do alt-f4 for team games usually anyways, for 1v1, alt-f4 is not a big problem since game duration is shorter and unpleasant maps is not a big annoyance. For team games, we want to play a pleasant map because itās not easy to coordinate 4 peopleās time, since our time is valuable weād rather play a map of our choice.
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Please and go to the lobby. You are wasting valuable time of other players.
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This nonsensical suggestion is answered over and over againā¦ Lobby is a big waste of time, which is also incapable of finding balanced games in a short amount of time. Value of time depends from person to person, and mine is very valuable.
Iām even ok paying a monthly fee for a guaranteed map choice (any open land or hybrid map is ok, i cannot tolerate closed maps). Iām playing this game for fun after all, not go satisfy other peopleās map fetishism.
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Not sure why your time should be more valuable then mine.
What i also see by the pro Alt+F4 people is that they want to lobby back as solution, but we already have the lobby, so i dont understand their issue with the lobby. Maybe just make the unranked elo visible and you seem to be good to go. I am not really sure why all those quitters try to join ranked. If all of them go the lobby, the problem seems to be solvedā¦ At least, it looks like solved for meā¦
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OK so you think your time is more valuable than othersā. Perfect definition of selfishness.
At least you said something acceptable. But before any solution is implemented, you need to accept what the system is. If you canāt accept, donāt play this game for now.
I donāt know if you played AoC/HD or not, but we used to have no choice but lobby. DE provided us the convenience of matchmaking not to be abused like this.
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Yeah I played in the zone back in 99, I know the experience. Matchmaking is so much faster, and I enjoy it. I never do alt-f4 for 1v1 by the way, because as I said, the games are shorter, and I donāt have to coordinate with a friend to get into a game. So time-constraint is not a binding problem here.
I donāt want to be disrespectful for others, but given work-hours, my time is valuable, itās not because Iām selfish, thatās the reality. So, when we coordinate with 3-4 players on a weekend or weekday, we really want to play a preferred map if weāre going to play 1-2 games in that session, not nomad, not Arena, not Black forest, not mega random, not Budapest etcā¦ Iām aware of the time spent in queue, and thatās a horrible experience, because we also receive alt-f4ās from the other teams even for Arabia sometimes, which is not fun.
Lastly, I think Iām going to quit playing this game due to these issues, although started this franchise even from AOE1ā¦ The current state of matchmaking and the mappool system is ruining everybodyās experience. Unless a smaller mappool or unlimited map bans are enacted, this issue will hardly be resolved. The devs should seriously consider these options (despite slightly higher queue times). But, no alt+f4 and longer queue time could actually be a net-gain in terms of wait times after all.
These are my few cents, again no intention to disrespect others.
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Matchmaking is faster, thatās why. I personally donāt care about TG elo, because itās a joke anyways. I just want relatively balanced, fast queue times with no hassle to find a game. Thatās all.
Maybe consider some 2v2 or FFA with your friends? Because joining the queue just to play nothing but one map means you really donāt need to be in the queue (as playing specifically one map is what the custom lobby is for).
Quitting the game is probably a better idea
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That is always an option indeedā¦! I myself am considering retiring from serious playing too, albeit unrelated to ALT+F4 issues. I still play along with friends though 
Opps, I didnt mean to reply you, but whatever, people will see this
Tell me why i should get banned when i dont want to play with a toxic team killer
Im just ALTF4ing all your preferred map choices, I wont feel sorry. I can do whatever I want, Its my valuable time after all
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There is no point of banning them, you can change account in 3 minutes with the family share system.
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