Sure include South Italy as well, Sicilians at their maximum extent. That doesn’t make a big difference either. They remain a sub-culture/dialect of Italian ethnicity.
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Lmao dude, that’s such a bullshit
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You mean: Lmao dude, that’s such a truth?
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Sicilians are part of a kingdom created by Normans, who weren’t represented in the game and had nothing to do with the north of Italy. If you think this is a subculture/dialect of Italian ethnicity I suggest you to better study history, because the differences are important.
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If we are going by ethnicity, Cumans don’t belong in the game(Turks), neither do Bulgarians(Slavs) oh wait I didn’t see anyone complaining about Bulgarians or Cumans when they entered the game,.
Cumans and Bulgarians are their own ethnicities with their own distinct language and culture. Cumans are kinda extinct now, after Mongol Invasions. And Bulgarians, what makes you think they are not an ethnicity?
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“The Cumans, also known as Polovtsians or Polovtsy, were a Turkic nomadic people comprising the western branch of the Cuman–Kipchak confederation.”
“Bulgarians are a nation and South Slavic ethnic group native to Bulgaria and its neighbouring region.”
“The Bulgars were Turkic semi-nomadic warrior tribes that flourished in the Pontic–Caspian steppe and the Volga region during the 7th century. They became known as nomadic equestrians in the Volga-Ural region, but some researchers say that their ethnic roots can be traced to Central Asia.”
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Check this table here: List of contemporary ethnic groups - Wikipedia
To know who are the ethnicities and who are dialects.
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The terms Turkics Slavs Germanics Dravidians are all umbrellas that encompass numerous ethnicities that are similar.
Bulgarians I am incorrect on, but I see no Cuman ethnic group
They have the same Slavic language, how is that “their own distinct language”? Bulgarians
Turkic are like the direct successors of the people from where the original Indo-Europeans migrated to everywhere else. In size, scope of cultures that the Turkics cover is similar to umbrellas Slavs, Indo-Aryans, German-Aryans, Steppe-Aryans(Turkics) all branches of original Aryans(Indo-Europeans)
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The main thing is, you guys complained, whined, argued and everything else for more civs, you finally got new civs and you complain that it wasn’t what you wanted. Would you rather have no new civs? Be happy that you got any new civs at all
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I just wrote Cumans are extinct, they didn’t make it into modern age. Want to know about other extinct people? Read about the Saurashtrians, Khazars etc.
Bulgars is a Turkic group from North of Caucasus near Volga. A group of them migrated into Europe mixed with South Slavs and minors settled. They are the ones called Bulgarians.
They even have empire status, First Bulgarian Empire (8th - 10th century), Second Bulgarian Empire (12th - 14th century)
They were not insignificant in medieval age like the Poles and other Slavic minors.
This is true, but they subjugated (and due to being outnumbered, got assimilated into) the local slavic population, and by the time of the campaign in AoE2, Bulgarians were just a slavic nation.
The Volga Bulgars, which remained in the territory of modern day Russia would probably be a separate civ from ‘Bulgarians’ considering they even had a different faith, the current architecture of the Bulgarians civ just wouldn’t fit for a starters.
Poland was no more insignificant in medieval times than Magyars or Lithuanians. They were a potential candidate back when the game was originally being developed
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Asian civilization/cultures are still very much alive from classical era to the modern without being assimilated in to other groups unlike some ingame civis.
But hey only european villages and hamlets matter.
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A nation surviving to the modern era doesn’t necessarily mean the nation was significant at the time AoE2 is set.
Indeed only european civis matter since medieval is a european thing anyway.