Exactly, you couldn’t have said it better my friend
to be less tongue-in-cheek, I think Portugal could be a good candidate for a European shock infantry to replace the hussar instead.
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In AOE3DE every time we have seen a faction get a unique unit it has either pop for pop been a strong unit or been unusually cost effective, sometimes even both.
Sure if Ports got something like an Uhlan I’d be fine with it, i just don’t think that is likely to happen within AOE3DEs design philosophy.
We’ll see how Poland and Denmark looks like, i think most people expect Poland to have some pretty great cavalry and Denmark to have a couple of wonder units, but are the factions also going to contain below average units? I think it would be cool if Denmark had a completely unique naval set up that mixes some good units with some really bad units, but so far when we have seen unique naval units they have more just been “you get the same number of ships but each ship is a bit different from the base version”, i want to see some truly unique takes personally where all the units have their own build-limits. Will Poland get poor infantry or will it more or less just be standard? will either of the factions have holes in their rosters they have work around?
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Let’s hope that the developers surprise us with some new changes when the new DLC is released, I want to think that in all this time that they have not had communication with AOE 3 fans it is because they have been working on balance changes and corrections as well as changes aesthetics in some units and buildings or new cards for some civilizations, this so that some factions do not become outdated when the new civilizations of Poland and Denmark are released
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French could have a unique Frigate, the corvette.
Russia/Sweden could have an archipelago frigate or a half galley.
India could have a whole host of new ships representing the Martha navy.
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Welcome @zeppelino24, it’s great to see you’ve received such a warm welcome from the community!
The two unique units I’d love to see added to the game, but haven’t been introduced yet, are:
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British Gurkhas – Not to be confused with the Indian version, these should be distinct. They’d be a skirmisher unit with high hitpoints, shorter range (18), fast movement speed (5), and a stronger-than-usual melee attack (thanks to their kukri). They should only be available through an infinite home city shipment, delivered in batches of 12-15, with each shipment costing 1000 coin.
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French Foreign Legionnaires – These would essentially be 2-pop Nizam Fusiliers, with the ability to alter their stats by changing stance. They should be available only in limited numbers, via an infinite home city shipment in Age IV, costing something around 2000 coin for 12 of them.
What do you all think?
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Yes I think a true jinete with javelins and a decent melee is better than a forced RG dragoon.
It’s not like we don’t have more archaic units unlocked in age 3. Halberdier, lancer, oprichnik, organ gun and war wagon are all quite archaic compared to the others.
Now the question is which other civ should get the RG dragoon?
Halberdiers represent generic heavy melee infantry so it’s natural most civs get them. You actually need more mental efforts or balancing concerns to justify why some civs DON’T have them (e.g. British).
Also Portuguese do have a halberdier guard unit:
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I like this idea. Franche may have a rotatory shipment: European-looking units, Portuguese Legion (in France service), African service units, Zouaves.
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Your idea sounds absolutely amazing!
I think this is the first time that I have get to know about the French Foreign Legionnaire, so I thank you for highlighting them in your suggestion.
Another notable military force of the French that could potentially be given to them as a new unique unit would be the Empress Dragoon. Maybe the French could have a card that replaces their [Horse Artillery] with a more modern artillery piece such as the De Bange 80 mm cannon. It was apparently often used by France during their Colonial conflicts before WW1.
A sketch of the Empress Dragoon. The helmet is probably the most eye-catching part of their uniform which is a copper or brass dragoon helmet that has a hanging mane and a simulated leopard fur turban:
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I’d like to see more variants than the falconet and culverins, if we want to follow the 16-17th century naming for artillery units.
Saker: Saker (cannon) - Wikipedia
Lonbarda: Lombard (gun) - Wikipedia
Serpentine
Minion: Minion (cannon) - Wikipedia
This period has the most colorful and diverse artillery names so you don’t need to call everything “xx-pounder field gun”.
For later artillery I think the Armstrong gun deserves some credit as the first successful rifled breechloading artillery. It could also be purchased from the consulate because it was famously exported to Japan (though Japan don’t have a British consulate XD)
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Thank you very much for the welcome, I love your suggestions, even Mexico could have access to that French Foreign Legionnaires unit since they were used in the French invasion of 1862, it would be great if Mexico like France had the second Mexican empire as a revolution
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It would be a good idea to rework the Portuguese halberdier giving him some a new skin and new ability, this new ability could be acquired with a new metropolis card similar to the skill of papal guards, this in order for the Portuguese halberdier to be more used and have a more interesting twist, which as far as i understand is one of the least used units of this civilization, I loved your idea of the Guarda Real dos Archeiros.
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I’m sorry but no, just no. Ginetes would be absolutely absurd and not fit at all with the timeframe, nor with a modern Portuguese army.
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Well we have rodelero and war wagon that are all relatively early for the games timeframe and you can use them all the way to the late game…
A unique dragoon unit would work too though.
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Ginete could also be a card or something similar, giving unique Zenata Riders or dragoons to Portuguese as a shipment.
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For all intents and purposes, the Zenata Rider is the Jinete y’all are talking about. The unit is in game already.
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Zeneta Rider is the Berber unit.
Jinete is the Iberian imitation of the Berber unit named after it.
You cannot say drabant, trabant and dorobant are all the same thing.
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Which is why I suggested they be shipped via card as a buffed and unique version of the Javelin Rider/Zenata Rider akin to the Russian Georgian Hussars or the legacy Winged Hussars for German. No need to make them their own unit, but they were used by Spain/Portugal in the 16th century.
Portugal is such a strange empire. Is literally like the quiet kid of the class. Seemengly peacefull and weaker than everyone else, while in Africa is making such a horrible mess that it was literally the last -classic- empire to fall.
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Maybe the Portuguese could get the “Peça de Panela” (Pot Gun) as their second unique artillery unit, which can replace the [Mortar] for them.
This artillery piece seem to have been used by the Portuguese empire primarily during the late 17th and early 18th century. And it could have possibly been used during the “Siege of Diu” (1546) and in various colonial campaigns, particularly in Africa and Asia.
However, I had to ask Copilot chatbot for help in getting this information so it may not be completely reliable. The only source that I have found so far that mentions about the “Peça de Panela” mortar is from this Silver Hawk Author website, which is for the most part a picture gallery of the artillery pieces that are displayed at the Lisbon Military Museum. But the author of this website have provided some short descriptions of the artillery pieces.
Here is a picture of the “Peça de Panela” mortar:
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