If an Italian civilization was to be added to Age of Empires IV, which one would you like to see? Note that the Byzantines aren’t on the list because the Byzantines ruled over the Eastern fragmentations of the Roman Empire.
I don’t see the point of having 4 options for merchant republics. Venice was by far the most powerful and prominent of these. The only other merchant republic that came close to rivaling them was Genoa, and that’s not even on your list.
The major players in Italy were:
Merchant Republics (best represented by Venice)
Papacy (could have some Avignon and crusader elements)
I didn’t put Genoese on the list because someone in one of my other poll threads explained that the Genoese were often under the French influence and not to mention, the French unique unit, the arbalétrier is basically the Genoese Crossbowman.
Genoese are still more prominent than Florence and Pisa despite the French aegis. Milan/Lombardy might be somewhat comparable to Genoa, but Milan was often under the influence of the HRE and Venetians.
You’re probably right. Only the Venetians would indeed make sense because the territories of Italy that aren’t the Republic of Venice were in fact ruled by the HRE. This list of states of the Holy Roman Empire on Wikipedia includes Italian territories:
I don’t get why you call them “Civs”, it would be better to just include “Italians”, as they’ve done with the French and English, this thread seems pointless.
They went with Ottomans instead of Turks so I can see them getting more specific. Papal States and Norman Sicily also have significant non-Italian components.
The HRE civ is pretty solidly German though. Also, Venice was de jure under Byzantine authority which is part of the reason it wasn’t in the HRE like the other Italian states.