Stormgate Vs Age Of Empires IV
Stormgate will release like aoe iv with a lot of missing features.
Within in its first year will fly past aoe iv cause they have there team 100% working on the one game.
Not like microsoft did to aoe 4 and still aoe2 is there favourite child, so doesn’t give aoe4 much hope
Stormgate wins with the second highest RTS player base after starcraft 2 lol
SC2 have a way more player than all aoe, competitive and casual player (so being a fast game don’t seem to be an issue, you can be slow at sc2, you wont be a pro, that’s all).
That plus, what “coop campaign, army personalised” have to fast fingers? It’s pure casual features
Stormgate will release with high skill PvP in mind, while lacking single-player features.
People will get bored 1-2 weeks later and abandon the game.
Even for free people dont play such games.
Right now, there is simply no true old school RTS in development,
they all want a piece of E-Sport pie, that did rot away over 2 decades ago.
Yes, but you have the original WC3 and SC2 devs working on it… It would be very rare for it to fail… From the images I saw that it looks good, at least conceptually speaking…
it’s highly depends on: price or f2play
and what “features” they will be missing.
Remember as devs were saying “we were thinking on removing water from AOE4”.
Now, i believe they SHOULD not release with water. → less bugs + more time + available DLC in a year or two.
yes, Dota is boring or CS (with new record of 1.5mln players at a time).
so boring games.
yes, nobody plays dota.
he’s specifically refering to RTS since 2010 (except SCII)
do we need comment further?
Let’s remove The most successful game from selection. genius.
that most successfull game had to switch direction towards more PvE and user content over esports to truly thrive
small quote for you: you cannot artificially create an esport, you have to make a great game first and naturally gain audience, then slowly an esport MAY appear
on what DATA you make this conclusions?
17 years of experience with the RTS genre, and seeing too many RTS games bomb last decade by repeating initial mistake of SCII, overfocusing on 1v1 ladder and esports, SCII survived due to name and korean following at the time, all the games after had neither, won’t draw this any further as your critical thinking doesn’t seem to work particularly well
now on stormgate itself, i want to for once see some innovation in this genre again, mechanically and otherwise
just SOOO inconsistent:
What happens with sc2 is it success or not?
All == RTS games?
What games? AOE4? There was No huge RTS projects since sc2.
And aoe4 arguably focused on PvP, considering the state(responsiveness) of the game + promotion as HISTORY lessons. Throwing pocket money into tournaments(which btw being done by COMMUNITY) != focusing on PvP. They even did not hire pro league, but throw money to someone to organize tournaments. 100% focus on PvP [sarcasm]
And you so narrow minded with RTS after 2010, but without SC2…(0.5 huge projects were released in last 10 years without CoH)
as you refused to compare RTS with other genres/games and search for solutions from other genre experience…
→ you probably want smth else… not innovations.
first person to call me inconsistent, not that i feel the need to bother with folks like you, call me whatever pleases you, don’t give a shit
And I have more than 20 years of experience in RTS and I tell you that a game of this genre, in the middle of the year 2023, must focus on the casual and competitive environment at the same time, separated from each other, reducing its learning curve and that be a more social game, where the team game can also be competitive.
To me it seems like AoE4 doesn’t know exactly what it wants to be. For casuals I’d say there’s not enough content available and for Esports with lack of micro the skill ceiling feels flat. However, patching is mainly focused on Esports. Maybe they should have implemented a casual and competitve game mode in the first place to satisfy both parts of the community. E.g. mega random could have been played with current settings and ranked game mode with a lil bit faster pace, maybe more micro involved.
When AoE4 launched SC2 was the game with the biggest potential for AoE4 to gain players. You can even see a huge player drop on the SC2 ladder when AoE4 was released. However, I have a hard time imaging that many SC2 players would be satisfied with AoE4 because it is just way too slow and has such powerful defensive structures. If I remember correctly Lucifron has also said that he didn’t play that much AoE4 in 2022 since the meta was rather defensive.
When it comes to AoE2 players (probably second largest game for AoE4 to gain players) I have no idea what the reasons were to not switch to AoE4. There was literally no player drop on AoE2’s community so I’d assume the fast majority just didn’t like it from the very beginning.
Warcraft is a notable example, dota was created as a game mode for casual players.
It was not made with esports in mind. It was made to entertain players by creating an almost entirely different way of playing the game. Soon, many casuals enjoyed it. They repeatedly played it against each other. Soon, it had players from CS pro teams, then the game mode became a true esports game. Lots of tournaments were announced. People loved it. Not just esports, but mostly casuals. The difference between casual and esport players are players play the game to enjoy and win (casuals) or to play the game and win a prize (esports).
After a few years, DOTA2 was announced to have its independent game mode as a full game.
Mostly, casuals play DOTA2, as it can run on potato PC and is free. Lots of its events offer giveaway items that can be sold or used in the game that offer various effects and different skins etc. Just by enjoying the game, players get rewarded. Counter-Strike is also the same. It was built by casuals. People love to play against each other, but many just don’t play in tournaments. It is mostly the casuals watching the tourneys, not the esports themselves! It is like Olympic champions don’t watch themselves in a stadium or on a TV, they perform and casuals just watch them. Without a huge number of casuals, you cannot have a huge tournaments!
A very simple theory that almost all scientists agree with.
the rhythm is fine since you must be attentive to different places, regarding the walls there are threads giving suggestions
Isn’t about the defensiveness only.
Is sc2 every little skirmish is dynamic and interesting, involves precision.
Strategies are plenty for each race, units are vast different and you can create your own playstyle no matter what civ you choose.
The reason people from sc2 continue playing here is because of money, demu said it’s too hard to compete in sc2.
If you are 25+ , 30+ rts gamer you want to provide money for your family and what better than playin aoe4 where the moneys are good and didn’t require too much to be able to get into that lvl.
Now I don’t say I am on that level, on the contrary, I wish I was but the game got me bored long time ago.
The reason I visit forums every day is to see if something changes.
If I have to choose historical period with tactics like ancient times or medieval than sci-fi I will always choose history based games.
The problem here is I don’t feel like I play different civilization, every single one feels the same with little economic changes
If you want to be slower pace and more strategy like, good, make weather, food supply, castle sieges, trap holes, purpose of hills the list can go on and on, that way everyone will have historical blast while playin rts and no matter how fast or slow the game is if you can make it to feel like I play certain civilization people will have a blast even the games are 90 minutes.
On the other hand you have esports.
A lot of people don’t like fast pace games, micro intensive, split decision ###### ### that is e-sport, that’s how people compete.
There is dynamics, diversity, fast adaptation, huge attention without time to just chillin on the map.
If we see Counter strike, you can die within the first 10 sec if awp hits you, if you see starcraft you can die to first reaper at 2 minute if you don’t defend it while also have to scout whole game because the game is so diverse. Street figher or tekken, this games literally need you to look in the future because half second late game could be over. That’s what hype people and that’s why every single tourney have great games to be remembered.
On the other hand Aoe 4 wants to be historical accurate which doesn’t happen, plenty of stuff and units aren’t suppose to be there like unique Malian units , there wasn’t gunpowder in Malian empire…
Wants you to pump 120+ villagers like if you manage kingdom or something but fails at that too.
If you want something similar focused on your base more than the fight itself you can get some interesting stuff from paradox games like Imperator rome, Europa universalis, Crusader kings.
So basically from 200 supply more than half of it is from boring villagers which cant do nothing interesting.
There is no diversity in gameplay, archer is archer, horse is horse while there can be so much different variation of horsemen and archers and infantry.
And on top of that pace is slow.
So lets summarize it :
If someone ask me what this game is I wouldn’t be able to tell tbh.
Watched beasty vs marinelord, malians vs malians and what I was seeing was 30 horse A-click vs 30 horses, nothing die, nothing move, 1 min fight nothing happen. I was so impressed by that.
How can someone make so boring battle mechanics and people still like it.
I’ll continue read posts and hope developers make something before its too late but I wouldn’t think so.
As I see they are busy making money.
They have so much work on this game in the meantime they released another unfinished game like Company of Heroes 3. Thank God I didn’t buy it.
If they don’t make something innovative soon until Stormgate drop I am sure pro scene will die, like 100%.
It was quite similar with 12 villagers start in round 2. Mainly spears chasing spears I remember. It’s a shame, imo a very successfull formula could be to just mix SC2 with AoE2. Take some elements of special abilities and micro from SC2 and mix it up with the complex AoE2 economy and random maps and there you have a great basis for a good RTS that can have it all (not fully random maps but imo a lil bit of randomness makes quick decision making and creativity an important skill in the early game). I sometimes turn on twitch to follow the state of the game but it just looks like there’s a lack of strategic options in many situations. The game often forces you to build rams to end the game in feudal, deny trade or water to keep up with the opponent. That’s a pity because there should always be plenty of strategical options.
Let’s say your attacking your opponents base with many archers and at some point have to retreat because your opponent built horsemen or maa to counter and chase you. You move all the way back to your starting TC and are busy with alternately attacking 1 unit of your opponent to kill it and then move backwards again. That can take like a minute and more with super monotone micro. How can that be fun when there’s literally only one option left to get out of that unconvenient situation and when that option is super monotone with barely any skill involved? I don’t get it. I watch Vortix, Lucifron and Marinelord do it and immediately think that they must truly hate that mechanic.
Well you have all the Total War and Wargame games, Paradox and other games that were coming out from 2010 until today…
| 2010 | Command & Conquer 4: Tiberian Twilight | EA | Sci-fi | WIN | Sequel to Command & Conquer 3: Tiberium Wars |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 2010 | Napoleon: Total War | The Creative Assembly | Historical | WIN, OSX | Turn-based campaign map with real-time battles. |
| 2010 | The Settlers 7: Paths to a Kingdom | Blue Byte | Fantasy | OSX, WIN | Sequel to The Settlers: Rise of an Empire |
| 2010 | Hegemony: Philip of Macedon | Longbow Games | Historical | WIN | Prequel to Hegemony Gold: Wars of Ancient Greece |
| 2010 | Supreme Commander 2 | Gas Powered | Sci-fi | OSX, WIN, X360 | Sequel to Supreme Commander |
| 2010 | War of Legends | Jagex | Fantasy | Flash | |
| 2010 | Warhammer 40,000: Dawn of War II – Chaos Rising | Relic | Sci-fi, Fantasy | WIN, LIN, OSX | Expansion to Warhammer 40,000: Dawn of War II. |
| 2010 | R.U.S.E | Eugen Systems | Historic | OSX, WIN, X360, PS3 | |
| 2010 | Zero-K | Zero-K Team and others | Sci-fi | LIN, WIN | |
| 2010 | MegaGlest | MegaGlest Team | Fantasy | LIN, OSX, WIN, Various | Fork and continuation of Glest |
| 2010 | Victoria II | Paradox Development Studio | Historical | WIN, OSX | Sequel to Victoria: An Empire Under the Sun. |
| 2011 | Anno 2070 | Related Designs, Blue Byte | Sci-fi | WIN | Society Strategy. Sequel to Anno 1404 |
| 2011 | Dawn of Fantasy | Reverie World Studios, Inc. | Fantasy | WIN | MMORTS |
| 2011 | Illyriad | Illyriad Games Ltd | Fantasy | BROW | MMORTS |
| 2011 | Left Behind: World At War | Inspired Media Entertainment | Futuristic | WIN | Sequel to Left Behind: Eternal Forces |
| 2011 | Men of War: Assault Squad | Digitalmindsoft | Historical | WIN | Real-time tactics |
| 2011 | Sengoku | Paradox Development Studio | History | WIN | Grand strategy. |
| 2011 | Stronghold 3 | Firefly Studios | Historical | WIN, LIN, OSX | Sequel to Stronghold 2 |
| 2011 | Total War: Shogun 2 | The Creative Assembly | Historical | WIN, MAC, LIN | Turn-based campaign map with real-time battles. |
| 2011 | Warhammer 40,000: Dawn of War II – Retribution | Relic | Sci-fi, Fantasy | WIN, LIN, OSX | Second expansion to Warhammer 40,000: Dawn of War II. |
| 2011 | Achron | Hazardous Software | Sci-fi | WIN | ‘4D’ RTS with Time Travel story and mechanics |
| 2012 | Crusader Kings II | Paradox | Historical | WIN, OSX, ######### strategy. Sequel to Crusader Kings. | |
| 2012 | Hegemony Gold: Wars of Ancient Greece | Longbow Games | Historical | WIN | |
| 2012 | Naval War: Arctic Circle | Paradox | Contemporary | WIN | |
| 2012 | Sins of a Solar Empire: Rebellion | Ironclad | Sci-fi | WIN | First stand-alone expansion to Sins of a Solar Empire. |
| 2012 | Wargame: European Escalation | Eugen Systems | Historical, Alternate History | WIN | Real-time tactics. |
| 2013 | Europa Universalis IV | Paradox Development Studio | History | MAC, WIN, ######### strategy. Sequel to Europa Universalis III | |
| 2013 | StarCraft II: Heart of the Swarm | Blizzard | Sci-fi | OSX, WIN | First StarCraft II Expansion. |
| 2013 | Pikmin 3 | Nintendo | Sci-fi | Wii U | |
| 2013 | Age of Empires II: The Forgotten | Skybox Labs, Forgotten Empires | Historical | WIN | Expansion to Age of Empires II HD. |
| 2013 | Company of Heroes 2 | Relic | Historical | WIN | Sequel to Company of Heroes. |
| 2013 | Total War: Rome II | The Creative Assembly | Historical | WIN, MAC, LIN | Turn-based campaign map with real-time battles. |
| 2013 | Command: Modern Air Naval Operations | Matrix Games | Modern War, Alternate History | PC | Map only, Earth-wide, Real time all-out-warfare strategy simulator, Scenario editor |
| 2013 | Bouboum | Atelier 801 | WIN, MAC, LIN | ||
| 2013 | Wargame: AirLand Battle | Eugen Systems | Historical, Alternate History | WIN | Real-time tactics. Sequel to Wargame: European Escalation |
| 2014 | Planetary Annihilation | Uber Entertainment | Sci-fi | WIN, OSX, LIN | Spiritual Successor to Total Annihilation |
| 2014 | Company of Heroes 2: Ardennes Assault | Relic | Historical | WIN | Expansion to Company of Heroes 2. |
| 2014 | Ancient Space | CreativeForge Games | Sci-fi | WIN, OSX | |
| 2014 | Evolution RTS | Ben Woods and others | Sci-fi | LIN, WIN | |
| 2014 | Hegemony Rome: The Rise of Caesar | Longbow Games | Historical | WIN | Sequel to Hegemony Gold: Wars of Ancient Greece |
| 2014 | Stronghold Crusader II | Firefly Studios | Historical | WIN | Sequel to Stronghold Crusader. |
| 2014 | Men of War: Assault Squad 2 | Digitalmindsoft | Historical | WIN | Real-time tactics. Sequel to Men of War: Assault Squad. |
| 2014 | Meridian: New World | Elder Games | Sci-fi | WIN | |
| 2014 | Wargame: Red Dragon | Eugen Systems | Historical, Alternate History | WIN | Real-time tactics. Sequel to Wargame: AirLand Battle |
| 2014 | Ultimate General: Gettysburg | Game-Labs | Historical | WIN | |
| 2014 | Infested Planet | Rocket Bear Games | Sci-fi | WIN | real-time strategy, tower defense[7] |
| 2015 | Grey Goo | Petroglyph Games | Sci-fi | WIN | |
| 2015 | Etherium | Tindalos Interactive | Sci-fi | WIN | |
| 2015 | Hegemony III: Clash of the Ancients | Longbow Games | Historical | WIN | Sequel to Hegemony Rome: The Rise of Caesar. |
| 2015 | Age of Empires II: The African Kingdoms | Skybox Labs, Forgotten Empires | Historical | WIN | Expansion to Age of Empires II HD. |
| 2015 | Homeworld Remastered Collection | Gearbox Software | Sci-fi | WIN | Remaster of Homeworld and Homeworld 2. |
| 2015 | Planetary Annihilation: Titans | Uber Entertainment | Sci-fi | WIN, OSX, LIN | Planetary Annihilation Standalone Expansion |
| 2015 | Act of Aggression | Eugen Systems | Contemporary, Sci-fi | WIN | Sequel to Act of War: Direct Action. |
| 2015 | StarCraft II: Legacy of the Void | Blizzard | Sci-fi | OSX, WIN | Second StarCraft II Expansion. |
| 2015 | Total War: Attila | The Creative Assembly | Historical | WIN, MAC, LIN | Turn-based campaign map with real-time battles. |
| 2015 | Nightside | Omnidream Creations | Sci-fi | WIN, LIN | |
| 2015 | Executive Assault | Hesketh Studios Ltd | Sci-fi | WIN | FPS/RTS Hybrid |
| 2016 | Age of Mythology: Tale of the Dragon | Skybox Labs, Forgotten Empires | Fantasy | WIN | Expansion to Age of Mythology: Extended Edition. |
| 2016 | Battlefleet Gothic: Armada | Tindalos Interactive | Sci-fi | WIN | |
| 2016 | Kingdom Wars 2: Battles | Reverie World Studios | Fantasy | WIN | |
| 2016 | Ashes of the Singularity | Oxide Games, Stardock | Sci-fi | WIN | |
| 2016 | Ashes of the Singularity: Escalation | Oxide Games, Stardock | Sci-fi | WIN | Stand-alone expansion to Ashes of the Singularity. |
| 2016 | Cossacks 3 | GSC Game World | Historical | WIN, OSX, LIN | Sequel to Cossacks 2. |
| 2016 | Hearts of Iron IV | Paradox Development Studio | History | MAC, WIN, ######### strategy. Sequel to Hearts of Iron III | |
| 2016 | Meridian: Squad 22 | Elder Games | Sci-fi | WIN | Sequel to Meridian: New World |
| 2016 | Offworld Trading Company | Mohawk Games | Sci-fi | WIN, OSX | |
| 2016 | Homeworld: Deserts of Kharak | Blackbird Interactive | Sci-fi | WIN | |
| 2016 | Total War: Warhammer | The Creative Assembly | Fantasy | WIN, OSX, LIN | Turn-based campaign map with real-time battles. |
| Cancelled | Command & Conquer: Generals 2 | Victory Games | Sci-fi | WIN | |
| 2016 | Anno 2205 | Blue Byte | Sci-fi | WIN | Society Strategy. Sequel to Anno 2070 |
| 2016 | 8-Bit Armies | Petroglyph Games | Sci-fi | WIN | |
| 2016 | 8-Bit Hordes | Petroglyph Games | Fantasy | WIN | |
| 2016 | 8-Bit Invaders | Petroglyph Games | Sci-fi | WIN | |
| 2016 | reconquest | StormCube Games | Sci-fi | WIN | |
| 2016 | Age of Empires II: Rise of the Rajas | Skybox Labs, Forgotten Empires | Historical | WIN | Expansion to Age of Empires II HD. |
| 2017 | Blitzkrieg 3 | Nival | Historical | WIN, OSX, LIN | Sequel to Blitzkrieg 2 |
| 2017 | Command: Chains of War | Matrix Games | Modern War, Alternate history | PC | Map only, Earth-wide, Real time all-out-warfare strategy simulator,Scenario editor |
| 2017 | Halo Wars 2 | The Creative Assembly, 343 Industries | Sci-fi | WIN, XONE | Sequel to Halo Wars |
| 2017 | Total War: Warhammer II | The Creative Assembly | Fantasy | WIN, OSX, LIN | Turn-based campaign map with real-time battles. |
| 2017 | Warhammer 40,000: Dawn of War III | Relic | Sci-fi | WIN, LIN, OSX | Sequel to Warhammer 40,000: Dawn of War II |
| 2017 | Sudden Strike 4 | Kite Games | Historical | WIN | Real-time tactics. Sequel to Sudden Strike 3: Arms for Victory |
| 2017 | Rusted Warfare - RTS | Corroding Games | Sci-fi | WIN | |
| 2017 | StarCraft: Remastered | Blizzard | Sci-fi | WIN | |
| 2017 | HYPERNOVA: Escape from Hadea | ActaLogic | Sci-fi | WIN | |
| 2017 | Tooth and Tail | Pocketwatch Games | Fantasy | WIN, LIN, OSX, PS4 | |
| 2017 | SpellForce 3 | THQ Nordic | Fantasy | WIN | Sequel to SpellForce 2: Shadow Wars |
| 2017 | Syrian Warfare | Cats Who Play | Modern war | WIN | |
| 2017 | Planet X2 | The 8-bit Guy | Sci-fi | C64 | |
| 2017 | Steel Division: Normandy 44 | Eugen Systems | Historical | PC | |
| 2017 | Hegemony III: The Eagle King | Longbow Games | Historical | WIN | Expansion to Hegemony III: Clash of the Ancients. |
| 2017 | Ultimate General: Civil War | Game-Labs | Historical | WIN | Sequel to Ultimate General: Gettysburg |
| 2018 | Judgment: Apocalypse Survival Simulation | Suncrash | Modern, Post-Apocalyptic | WIN | |
| 2018 | Ancestors Legacy | Destructive Creations | Historical | WIN | |
| 2018 | Zero-K | Zero-K Team | Sci-fi | WIN, LIN | |
| 2018 | Total War Saga: Thrones of Britannia | The Creative Assembly | Historical | WIN, MAC, LIN | Turn-based campaign map with real-time battles. |
| 2018 | Northgard | Shiro Games | Fantasy | WIN | |
| 2018 | They Are Billions | Numantian Games | Sci-fi | WIN | Survival strategy |
| 2018 | Empires Apart | DESTINYbit | Historical | WIN | |
| 2018 | Executive Assault 2 | Hesketh Studios Ltd | Sci-fi | WIN,OSX | FPS/RTS Hybrid. Sequel to Executive Assault |
| 2018 | Forged Battalion | Petroglyph | Sci-fi | WIN | |
| 2018 | Loria | Loria | Fantasy | WIN, OSX, LIN | |
| 2018 | Eximius: Seize the Frontline | Ammobox Studios | Sci-fi | WIN | FPS/RTS Hybrid |
| 2018 | Frostpunk | 11 Bit Studios | Sci-fi | WIN | Survival strategy |
| 2018 | Planet X3 | The 8-bit Guy | Sci-fi | DOS | Sequel of Planet X2 in MS-DOS |
| 2019 | SpellForce 3: Soul Harvest | THQ Nordic | Fantasy | WIN | Standalone expansion to Spellforce 3 |
| 2019 | Re-Legion | Ice Code Games | Sci-fi | WIN | Cyberpunk rts |
| 2019 | Total War: Three Kingdoms | The Creative Assembly | Historical | WIN, OSX, LIN | Turn-based campaign map with real-time battles. |
| 2019 | Million Lords | Million Victories | Fantasy | AND, IOS | Real-time strategy game on mobile. |
| 2019 | Steel Division 2 | Eugen Systems | Historical | WIN | Sequel to Steel Division: Normandy 44 |
| 2019 | Anno 1800 | Blue Byte | Historical | WIN | Society Strategy. Sequel to Anno 2205 |
| 2019 | Battlefleet Gothic: Armada 2 | Tindalos Interactive | Sci-fi | WIN | Sequel to Battlefleet Gothic: Armada |
| 2019 | BANNERMEN | Pathos Interactive | Fantasy | WIN | Semi-fantasy medieval settings |
| 2019 | Imperator: Rome | Paradox Development Studios | Historical | WIN | Grand Strategy, Sequel to Europa Universalis: Rome |
| 2019 | War Party | Warcave | Fantasy | WIN | |
| 2019 | Taste of Power | OneOcean LLC | Alternate medieval history | WIN | |
| 2019 | A Year of Rain | Daedalic Entertainment | Fantasy | WIN | |
| 2019 | Conan Unconquered | Petroglyph Games | Fantasy | WIN | Survival strategy |
| 2019 | Medieval Kingdom Wars | Reverie World Studios | Fantasy | WIN | Sequel to Kingdom Wars 2: Battles |
| 2019 | Age of Empires II: Definitive Edition | Xbox Games Studios | Historical | WIN | Remaster of Age of Empires II |
| 2020 | Warcraft III: Reforged | Blizzard | Fantasy | WIN | Remastered 3D graphics |
| 2020 | Command & Conquer: Remastered Collection | Petroglyph Games | Sci-fi | WIN | Remaster of Tiberian Dawn and Red Alert |
| 2020 | Age of Empires III: Definitive Edition | Xbox Games Studios | Historical | WIN | Remaster of Age of Empires III |
| 2020 | Iron Harvest | King Art Games | Sci-fi | WIN | Alternate history |
| 2020 | Crusader Kings III | Paradox Development Studios | Historical | WIN | Grand Strategy, Sequel to Crusader Kings II |
| 2020 | Stellar Warfare | Tense Games | Sci-fi | WIN | Base building, ship editing, mining. Inspired by classic RTS games. |
| 2020 | SpellForce 3: Fallen God | THQ Nordic | Fantasy | WIN | Standalone expansion to Spellforce 3 |
| 2019 | Total War Saga: Troy | The Creative Assembly | Historical | WIN, OSX, LIN | Turn-based campaign map with real-time battles. |
| 2021 | Five Nations | Silver Forge Studios | Sci-fi | WIN | Inspired by classic 2D RTS games. |
| 2021 | Stronghold: Warlords | Firefly Studios | Historical | WIN, OSX | |
| 2021 | Evil Genius 2: World Domination | Rebellion Developments | Spy | WIN | Sequel to Evil Genius |
| 2021 | Carrier Command 2 | Geometa | Sci-fi | WIN | Sequel to Carrier Command |
| 2021 | Kingdom Wars 4 | Reverie World Studios | Fantasy | WIN | Sequel to Medieval Kingdom Wars |
| 2021 | Age of Empires IV | Relic Entertainment | Historical | WIN | Sequel to Age of Empires III |
| 2021 | Age of Darkness: Final Stand | PlaySide | Fantasy | WIN | Survival strategy |
| 2022 | Starship Troopers - Terran Command | The Artistocrats | Sci-fi | WIN | |
| 2022 | Crossfire: Legion | Blackbird Interactive | Sci-fi | WIN | |
| 2022 | Total War: Warhammer III | The Creative Assembly | Fantasy | WIN, OSX, LIN | Turn-based campaign map with real-time battles. Sequel to Total War: Warhammer II |
| 2022 | Knights of Honor II: Sovereign | Black Sea Games | Historical | WIN | Sequel to Knights of Honor. |
| 2022 | Dune: Spice Wars | Shiro Games | Sci-fi | WIN | RTS with 4X elements |
| 2022 | WARNO | Eugen Systems | Historical, Alternate History | WIN | Real-time tactics. Spiritual successor to the Wargame series. |
| 2022 | Line War | Studio Centurion | Sci-fi | WIN | RTS with 4X elements |
| 2022 | Warpips | Skirmish Mode Games | Contemporary | WIN | |
| 2022 | Victoria 3 | Paradox Development Studios | Historical | WIN | Sequel to Victoria II. |
| 2023 | The Settlers: New Allies | Blue Byte | Historical | WIN | City-building |
| 2023 | Company of Heroes 3 | Relic | Historical | WIN | Sequel to Company of Heroes 2. |
| 2023 | Terminator: Dark Fate - Defiance | Cats Who Play | Sci-fi | WIN | |
| 2023 | Ratten Reich | Metall Adler Studio | Fantasy | WIN | |
| 2023 | Men of War II | Best Way | Historical | WIN | Real-time tactics. Sequel to Men of War |
| 2023 | Homeworld 3 | Blackbird Interactive | Sci-fi | WIN | Sequel to Homeworld 2 |
Those of AoE 2 do not play AoE 4 because they feel it very AoE 3 and those of AoE 3 do not play AoE 4 because they feel it very AoE 2, but AoE 4 can still receive players from both AoE 3 and SC2…
I couldn’t have said it better…