I think the semi-civ make this game charming, but when I watch the games, I find that most of the time people never construct the TP and use them.
In the early game, their costs may be too heavy. In the late game, their units are worse than the own army. I had considered giving free upgrading to help them, but now it becomes the unique bonus of the African civs.
As title, how to do it?
Native TP could generate EXP, similar to a church.
Native TP could automatically, slowly spawn the units, similar to a dojo or Summer Palace.
(Still allow pay the cost, training them in the regular way.)
Make their units and techs cost cheaper, training/researching faster.
TYPE OF COST
Most good native units cost food and wood which is terrible since in most cases you are macroing for food-gold.
This is a clear disadvantage in relation to own units.
Tps are far away from the base, and if you lose the alliance and have a strat base on native, you are hit way harder than if you did not ally. Also, there are unit limits (which forces you to Also make your own units) and their stats are not the Best in most cases.
Also, most native civs only have One unit, which makes barracks or stable a better option in army composition, for the same price as a TP
Yeah. Shall we allow native units cost gold? May its wood cost have some reasons and meanings?
For the 2nd one I stated, TP can automatically, slowly spawn the units, then you will accept its warriors free by the time and only need to afford the cost of TP.
Even if the native settler is located just behind and very close to the base, it sill does not be used. How to deal with it?
I think they have a similar problem with (most) tavern/saloon mercs and (most) outlaws. Most of them are either random or map-dependent, and people would not really develop any meta on those uncertain conditions. That’s why most mercs and natives are still sent by home city cards not trained, except very few maps like Andes with Incas.
So I can’t really think of a good way to make anything like that more useful. Maybe that’s more for fun and casual gameplay. Or maybe make them equally exceptionally good like some new African natives which give you an additional hero or sth.
Map-dependent is fine in my opinion.
If the player can sure which outlaws and natives will be there, it could still develop a meta possibly, such like Mongolia livestock pen.
To be honest, I do not support random mercenary. The civ should have be able to hire the mercenary who with partnerships. It a shame that French could not hire Swiss pikemen, Japanese could not hire Ninja, British could not hire Highlander if the player do not ship them from the home.
It could be weak but it should be cheap because of its weak.
The cost is too high.
I think the first TP of each native alliance should have a 1-time free batch of units that spawns automatically after 2 or 3 minutes, worth 500-600 res. If you get the TP before the auto-batch units are available (i.e. you’re in age 1), the auto-batch queues as soon as those units are available.
This would turn the TP’s original cost into a worthwhile investment. Plus, since you can always see when your opponent has built a native TP, the free-batch would be contestable which promotes player interaction. Since it’s a one-time batch, the native TP doesn’t directly bolster your economy, which keeps it distinct from TPs on the trade-route.
IMO this is the best way to make native TP’s viable, interesting, and popular.
I know. I think they are useless not because they are strong or not but you have to pay a lot of resource for making them trainable.
Not a bad idea.
But I will worry about how to balance that and players have more things to remember.
Some natives improvement would be powerful and some would be unimportant.
I stated the 1st suggestion that TP generate EXP. Simple and useful.
Well, early in the game, wood is scarce and players could choose between trading posts on the route or trading posts in a native village. In addition, it would not be unbalanced because, in general, both have the same access to commercial ports of all kinds (Native or road).