Which bit? I didn’t go fight them, so might have missed some of it.
+Lotharingians, Swedes, Danes and Irish civs.
Great Northern Wars
yessssssssss please. Agree
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uhhh a new DLC? i wonder what could it be.
V&V failed hard… so i dont think its againe like a campaign scenario DLC…
maybe only real campaigns? hmm. must be something big normally because its the 25th anniversary this year… so a AoC/Forgotten DLC type with civs from all over the world would be neat.
some guys from the community like RobbyLAVA showing that there still room for few civs on the unique bonis front.
Ahem…also, me. I’ve posted quite a few civ concepts on here.
With how long this has been “in the oven”. I wonder if things like regional monk skins will be introduced at the same time…
That would be cool. Monks and Trade Carts are the only units that can feasibly or justifiably get reskins for all players; the latter has already happened fully, and the former has an alt skin already.
No there are 11 Architectures but only 5 Trade Carts. Most glaring problem is with South Asia and Central Asia.
The European one does cover the area pretty well.
And personally, I don’t mind that two different ones cover India. It shows a greater visual difference between them.
Back to the DLC. I’ve been thinking, it’s feeling more likely that if it is China, that the Tanguts are almost the most likely civ at this point (alongside the Jurchens). The number of times they have appeared, and recently as well. It does feel like they are clearly on the devs radar.
After researching them a while back, they will likely have a focus on camels and trade. Or at least, eco upgrades with a trade theme (e.g. Grand Trunk Road for the Hindustanis).
Jurchens meanwhile I feel are flexible enough that their focus can be on almost anything. Although their UU is pretty sure to be the Iron Pagoda.
Possibly the most metal cavalry unit in East Asia.
Khitans also appear quite a few times, even if they are similar to the Mongols.
I think they’re mentioned as having a strong infantry. I can also see them using a grenadier unit (either regional or unique).
I think the Tie Futu would work better as a unique upgrade to the Knight line, and the civ’s focus would be most certainly on heavy cavalry, even if they have good alternatives.
One civ called Saxons for early Low German speakers.
One civ called Suebians for High German speakers.
Burgundians.
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If that was in the original, then likely not really something to pay attention to. But if this is a hint haha, what a way to do it.
Yeah, first two Genghis Khan levels off the top of my head.
On the surface they do seem a bit similar. But in my research, I found that even when both were steppe nomads, they had different focuses on units. Preferring to use more close-combat cavalry units than the Mongols.
But you also have the Liao Dynasty elements. So you can include things they would have had during that period. Aka, stuff they would have taken from China and used. So like, if a hypothetical Fire Lancer was introduced, they could have that.
Well we don’t have an East Asian civ with an infantry focus, so that has potential. Plus we have seen with Armenians that the devs will jump through hoops (I accidentally typed hooves haha) to not have too many cavalry civs in a DLC pack.
I think after the Savar recently, I am not sure if that will happen twice in a row. Would be nice to not have European knights in another East Asian civ though.
The unit was famously used in a battle where they shrugged off gunpowder shots and ran the gunners down. So I can see it being likely that they would be like cavalry Condos.
I’ve posted a lot of civ concepts here on the forum. If you look at my post history, you can find all of them.
In traditional Chinese artistic creations and folk tales about General Yue Fei of Song Dynasty, Prince Wuzhu of Jin Jurchens is often the villain and his great rival. I think if we have Yue Fei’s story as the Chinese campaign (which is actually what I’m looking forward to), then having Wuzhu become the Jurchen campaign would be a great choice, hopefully creating something similar to the echo between the Polish campaign and the Lithuanian campaign.
The Tanguts’ UU in Castles could be most likely a camel catapult unit called Poxi (潑喜). The Poxi Army was a small but elite force composed of about two hundred to three hundred men. they installed catapults on the back of bactrian camels (larger than dromedary ones) and launched a rain of stone projectiles at the Chinese army.
That’s pretty much the most unique thing about the Tangut military as far as I know, giving the game another cavalry + siege weapon unit after the Ballista Elephant. It would be fun to have camel catapults and their infantry collaborate with each other.
Regarding the regional unit, the Fire Lancer, as the previous unit of the Hand Cannoneer, can well reflect the development of gunpowder in East Asia. I think it is more likely to be adopted as a regional unit, and its significance of representing East Asian gunpowder makes it cover the grenadier as well.
The Fire Lancer can be shared by at least the Chinese, Jurchens, Koreans, and Mongols, while the Khitans and Tanguts may also share them.
Well we don’t have an East Asian civ with an infantry focus, so that has potential.
Absolutely. The Tibetans should also be a civ with a good infantry bonus if they are introduced. In fact, Chinese generals who fought against them spoke highly of the heavy armoured infantry of Tibetans.
Tibetans and Tanguts, both Qiang peoples, had excellent infantry because they were located in mountainous areas. So was Georgians supposed to be, but that is another topic…
some guys from the community like RobbyLAVA showing that there still room for few civs on the unique bonis front.
Here are my two cents.
If interested, you are welcome to check the DLC concepts I have posted about Central Asia and East Asia.
Although I hadn’t included the Tanguts there.
Hi. This topic compiles my latest (FEB.2024) concepts of 5 potential Central/East Asian steppe civs. Central Asia DLC: Tibetans/Qiangs Gokturks Sogdians East Asia DLC: Khitans Jurchens Chinese (campaign only) I deliberately do not explain the stats of UUs, the cost of UTs and the complete technology tree, because I think these details do not really affect the concept and can be adjusted at will according to the focus of the concept. None of them have Paladins, and all have Elite Steppe …
Hello everyone, this topic is going to assume that a DLC will introduce campaigns for these two civilizations, and also introduce some East Asian-focused Historical Scenarios. Many of them come from my replies in other threads. I sorted them out and added some new stuff. This works in the same universe as my Central and East Asia DLC concepts, which means I would assume that some new civilizations and campaigns for them will have already been introduced, including the Gokturks, Sogdians, Tibet…
I also have a post about the concept of African DLC, you can find it out if interested.
camel catapult unit called Poxi (潑喜).
Do we have pictures of how this unit might have looked like?