Wingless Hussar for non Polish civs please

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You are always accusing people of this when it doesnt hold up at any level.

We are not against the Polish, we just think their arguments are silly. And those arguments would be silly anywhere else with any civ.

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Ironic calling someone’s arguments silly without invalidating them or at least providing any of your own… Also, this generalization only makes you appear more biased.

I’m out of here since like CelticKeeper said, you few aren’t the audience to target with this small request.

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i’m actually happy for the polish community that their civ is getting added. you think they would be quite content with that, especially with the devs giving them things few civs have (a unique skin for a unit that no one else has, a unique building all their own, and a unique castle, which only like 4civs have), but instead they want more and more.

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I dont have to do that because its not necesary for the argument Im making.
Not to mention we have been talking about why we think that its silly for like 200 hundred posts

Maybe thats because you are a paranoid that always acuses people of being biased against ā€œthe polish peopleā€ despite the guy thats biased to the extreme being you

What is the difference between him talking on the forum and you talking on forum beside you disagree

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And you twisted it into ā€œits hardā€ which I havent said…

Aparently you like to argue :slight_smile: Look at your posts, some portion of self-reflection is needed…

The paladin issue was refuted several posts ago… repeating your stance does not make it the truth. Paladins and cavaliers are correct representations of late and high middle ages regardless of its name. To confirm that it is suficient to read AoE wiki…

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There is a difference between people having a sensible discussion (even when their oppinion differs) and having an open mind and people joining a discussion with the aims of causing disruption by means of personal attacks , twisting of words and antagonisation.

Some people say something when they have something to say, our little friend here says something, because he has to say something.

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Just because you consider it refuted doesn’t mean others do.

I could say the same to you guys.

but the problem is that the Paladin NAME and the Fleur De Lis both come from France at the time.

yeah. they reflect heavy cavalry. congrats. doesn’t mean they had to use the name - they could have just called it something else, but instead they decide to reference the Frankish paladins and make an obvious reference to them, to show how powerful they are. to which almost no one has a problem with.
so why do Poland fans have a problem with Hussars having an OBVIOUS REFERENCE to Poland, that shows Hussars to be the best of the best and yet a great reference to Poland added in?

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You are refering to yourself here or what? Be respectful of the others if you want to be respected.
As far as I’m concerned you are the one making noise for a trivial thing

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It’s a mod which replaces Hussars with Attila the Hun sprite

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Just because you dont want to admit the truth doesnt mean you are right :slight_smile:

Do you speak to me or some crowd? Are you aware you quote me and reply beneath it?

Do you have enough brain capacity to accept the fact the Fleur was not used only by French and AoE Wiki states this:

The ultimate fighting knights were paladins, the cream of the cavalier class. Paladins were champions for their lords and their orders of knighthood. These men were of the highest social class and elite warriors. They often made up the personal bodyguard of a great king and were sworn to protect his life with their own.

It literally says devs picked paladins as the representation (capital, bolt, exclamation marks :smiley: ) of high and late middle ages knights?:slight_smile:

How? Heavy cavalier? You would be first complaining how its dull, I guess.

And why do you have problem to just accept the fact, there are some people who would like the change :slight_smile:

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Maybe you dont want to accept it but theres not a single truth to this stuff. Just opinions

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Please stay on topic and be respectful towards other forum users.

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You are wrong. It was a reference to paladin issue which has always just one truth. I provided source. I cant do more.

Funny who liked your post, it says a lot.

Back to topic and problem of ā€œuniquenessā€ from Light Cavalry. The solution could be that instead of wings devs coud add some kind of banner like Magyar Hussars have. Some alternative.

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Forums are about discussing stuff and sharing opinions in a constructive manner, nothing else. This also involves not calling people brain damaged or with limited brain capacity just because they don’t agree with you.

If you just want to request stuff to the devs, write an E-Mail at info@forgottenempires.net and stop expecting people agree with everything you post here in the official Forums.

What is a discussion if there’s no opposition allowed? This Forum is democratic, not a place where everybody has to be on one line and agree with everything.

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Fair I thought you were talking about the hussars

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Man, this post went crazy over nothing.

This idea that the term paladin belongs exclusively to the French is a bit silly.
First of all, it’s highly likely that there were no real paladins and that they were just fictitious knights made up for The Song of Roland.
Typically when the term paladin gets used, it’s used in a descriptive context to describe great and noble warrior or knight.
It is almost never a literal historical context to allude to the knights in The Song of Roland.
The word paladin is never even mentioned in the original poem and the term ā€œpaladinā€ was created centuries after.
Paladin is ultimately a symbolic descriptive noun that has its origin in a tale about fictitious knights.
It is a foolish idea that the term can only be used in the specific circumstance of the Twelve Peers and belong exclusively to the French.

The whole Polish winged hussar thing, is it really that big of a deal?
Polish hussars themselves had lineage in Serbia and Hungary, so it’s not like the hussars Poland used would have been 100% ethnically Polish anyways.
Even all that considered, the Polish hussar looks cool and cool designs is what have influenced the designs of every unit in the game.
Almost every civ has unit designs that are historically unrealistic for them to have.
Yeah, it would be cool to have lots of different units that look different for each civ but that seems a bit impractical from a development standpoint.
Just accept the wings or make/download some kind of visual mod.

TL:DR
You guys need to find better things to argue about.

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I though you have left this thread as you wrote :slight_smile:

I am afraid you dont want to fully understand my position. I am fully comfortable when somebody has a different opinion and that is what I like because it often enriches the discussion.

However, if somebody stubbornly refuses accepting the truth (supported by sources and articles) then I must pick some diplomatic ways to continue :slight_smile:

To correct you: I havent wrote about brain damage. Dont put your words into my mouth.

In the end I have the same advice for you, you should write emails yourself and stop interfere into various threads about European DLCs asking for more non-European civs or expressing distate for the way how new DLCs are designed.

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