Hello, I’m a Chinese player of AOE3. I’ve played this game for 17 years and I like it very much. For some Chinese arms (Arquebusier, Changdao and Steppe rider), the appearance is wrong and does not conform to history. I suggest that through simple modification, without adding new models, we can make Chinese arms more beautiful and more in line with history，Although it can be achieved through mod, I think I can see these changes when playing multiplayer games.
制作组您好，我是一个帝国时代3的中国玩家，这个游戏我玩了17年了，非常喜欢。针对中国的部分兵种(火绳枪兵，草原骑兵，长刀兵)，外观存在错误，而且不符合历史，我建议通过简单修改，无需增加新的模型，就可以让中国兵种更美观，更符合历史。尽管可以通过mod实现，但是我想多人游戏的时候也能看到这些改变。
Arquebusier火绳枪兵
The hairstyle of the Arquebusier is wrong. The army of the Qing Dynasty would not have such a hairstyle, and it doesn’t look like a regular army. It is suggested to add a hat (keshik_hat_rank02) to him, which is more in line with history
火绳枪兵的发型是错误的，清朝的军队是不会有这样的发型的，而且看上去不像正规军，建议给他加上一个怯薛时代2的帽子，这样更符合历史
Arquebusier’s hat of Ara4/5 is wrong. I know you have referred to historical portraits, but the hat should have red lines. I modeled it (with Chukonu hat), but it still needs new modeling, so it can also be changed to the hat of (keshik_hat_rank02)
2 Steppe rider
The hair style of the Steppe rider is wrong. He looks a bit like a monk and a bandit. He is not a regular army. It is suggested to add keshik_hat_rank03 to him. This is a Mongolian hat, which looks more beautiful with it.
As stated in this article, you should make full use of models. In order to prevent waste, I suggest applying models of long knives and muskets in era 2. Through the reform of the new army, the appearance will be automatically changed with the upgrade
I really hope the production team can adopt my opinion. These changes will not take much time, but will bring a better experience. Please adopt, thank you!
真的希望制作组能采纳我的意见，这些改动花不了多少时间，但是会带了更棒的体验，请采纳，谢谢！
I prefer to change the Chinese Rattan Shield into a tiger-clothed rattan soldier. In this way, it is better to distinguish it from the units of Shaolin Temple. as Chinese mercenaries. Shaolin Temple units can be changed to Shaolin monks holding long sticks
The Shaolin stick is the most practical for the monk soldiers of the Shaolin Temple. The most conventional weapon is more suitable for representing Shaolin culture than the shield. The shield soldiers are generally the most special forces in Chinese history. The most famous are the Fujian rattan players during the Kangxi period, who wore tiger-like clothes and fought against the Cossacks.
I very much agree with your suggestion to make full use of model resources.
However, I don’t think this is appropriate, because the probability of issuing the “new army” card is not high, and the model is actually wasted, so I think the more perfect solution is to move the current version of era4 model to era5, and then move the non enabled model to era4, while the model of era3 remains unchanged.
My preference would be to make Shaolin Monks a Chinese unit that replaces Disciples. It would be a lot simpler than having a Shaolin Master, Disciple, and Shaolin Monk native.
The Shaolin Temples could just be replaced with Confucian and/or Taoist Temples. And a Theravada Temple with War Elephants could also be added so there’s still two types of Buddhist Temples.
I’d also like the monk heroes to be replaced with military units. Or at least for the Asian civs to have the monk hero plus a military hero, like Mexicans with the general and the padre (though I also dislike civs not having generic healers when they have a healer hero, which happens with both Mexicans and Asian civs).
I don’t think the Asians should have religious hero healers at all, even if they also got a military hero. For Mexico, the Padre makes sense since there were priests like Miguel Hidalgo and José Morelos who were revolutionary leaders. Even the Europeans would be better suited for religious heroes if you consider figures like Cardinal Richelieu.
The only instance where an Asian civ should get a religious hero would be if China got a revolution option to become the Taiping Heavenly Kingdom. In that case, a religious healer hero based on Hong Xiuquan could make sense.
Great work bro I personally use a similar mod when playing skirmisher battles and it does make Chinese gameplay more realistic. Villagers have the same problem copied straight from Japan which just shows the lack of care from the devs. Qing dynasty brigandine armor in game just looks way too off especially the leg armor covering the full back and not the front are wrong and should be rotated, but ay what’s not wrong with China lmao.
I have attached some Qing dynasty painting of the ten great campaign and taiping rebellion if you need it for a guild.
I adore any transition away from the default and towards more historically accurate Qing dynasty units. I grave Qing bannermen in this game, like I would pay for a DLC pack to make the Chinese units more Qing-like and even make the Ming like ones more accurate. Man, I would also pay for the Manchu mercenary to be default for the Chinese.
@SummerNutria26 Is your avatar Li Hongzhang? It sure looks like him.
As a historian of China (though my period of study is the Han dynasty) who has played this game since it first came out in what, 2004? 2005? I’ve been dying for more historically accurate looking units and the devs have been giving us just that but not for the Asian civs, I think it’s time for a cosmetic update. Well, actually India got one, and it make the Sowar and Zamburak or whatever it’s called look much more like Mughal units.
I would love for the Meteor Hammer have not nearly as ugly armor.
Oh and on top of that, we KNOW the Qing official uniform is already an asset in the game, in the Chinese home city, you can see Bannermen in changshan walking around, with their bianzi, they’re already in the game. Put a musket in their hand and a dao on their belt.
It would also be cool to have more ethnic units, like the Mongol Keshik and Manchu are cool but they should add Tibetans as a minor native civ. I would LOVE for the Zunghar/Oirats to get put in too. Same with the Vietnamese or the Javanese.
@napoleongggg I must say again, I love your suggestions.
well, I don’t have any hope that the production team will adopt my suggestions, so I made two mods, which you can search"Revise the Chinese to the style of Ming Dynasty-MP"and"Multiplayer compatible Revise the Chinese arms to the style of the Qing Dynasty‘’，this two mod is Multiplayer compatible,enjoy it and Give me good reviews
I do like the choice between the Ming and Qing uniforms but as someone who believes the height of Asian fashion was the Qing dynasty, I may be downloading that mod soon lol.
and no, I am not Chinese, I’ve spent the vast majority of my long life now studying China, but my actual concentration is on the Qin-Han-Three Kingdoms period, but after those periods, the Qing is my next favorite. My Mandarin is pathetic now since I graduated like…8 years ago. I have no one to speak it with so I can only read it somewhat well. Apparently my degree makes me a Sinologist, but my job sure doesn’t…
