POLL: Should the Variant Civilization Names Change?

Imagine having spent 10 long long posts, a lot of screenshots, even hand drawn figures to demonstrate the basic difference between “proportions between units and buildings” and “proportions between parts of the buildings”, yet still confronted with “BUT you still want hyperrealistic porportions!”

Yeah I cannot explain myself clearly. Because I never could. Better not wasting time on that anymore.

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Nobody was talking about proportions here until you just brought it up.

Nice strawman though. Age of Scarecrows next?

Age of Noob confirmed in his latest video.
The dropdown shows only Order of the Dragon not Holy Roman Empires (Order of the Dragon)
That might confuse a lot of people not knowing is a variant

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Just to showcase your standard of “expressing oneself”.

I see no difference between “seeing no difference between cheat units and biomes” and the example I’ve mentioned.
That’s a obviously a very valid comparison.

And I see no difference in writing 10 long posts or 10 words but both confronted with “I see no difference”. So it’s a friendly reminder to everyone not to waste their times “expressing themselves” to someone.

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It also depends on how different they are. But something like Order of the Dragon (HRE) may help. Helps to have the distinct name first imo.

I’m sure you don’t, but it’s been obvious for a long time that you have a weirdly specific problem with me nomatter what I type, to the extent you’re dragging up discussions from months or years ago and misquoting me to make me look bad :smiley:

Did you ever intend to take my posts in this thread seriously? Doesn’t feel like it unfortunately.

You need to express yourself clearer on that.
For example, I have no problems with your thoughts about the civ names in this thread. I feel this also counts as “no matter what you type” no?

nah it shifted now 65% are not pleased

I love the two new Civs

Devs… please reconsider the variety Civs, it looks like it’s more fantasy than historical.

French… crusaders (just like the intro the Muslims called the crusaders as franks)

HRE… teutonic order

Abassids… Mamluk sultanate

China… Manchuria or some X dynasty

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You should work on accepting different opinions. Agree to disagree and all that.

Like, I accept folks don’t like the mythological elements. But I’m also allowed to express my opinion when I find things funny.

I’m sure you don’t. That doesn’t change the callbacks to long-dead threads and misrepresentation of my posts that you did have a problem with. But again, you do it a lot and I’ve already wasted enough thread space replying to it. Cheers!

So am I.
But I will be arrested for that.

Where do you pull that from? Age of noob poll on youtube?

Yes, there is no information, but:

If you look up “Empire of Jade” nothing comes up. The only similar things are an old videogame called Jade Empire, and the Jade Emperor from Chinese mythology. Whatever this new “civ” includes, it doesn’t have a historical name, and only relates to fictional things. It’s something ahistorical in a historical game. It’s one thing to have a historically inaccurate battle, or unit, or line of dialogue… But an entire civ? That’s too much

My bottom line is the civs are named like “Chinese (Empire of Jade)”, or those variant names appear in an additional drop-down list after you pick a civ (somewhat like how you further pick decks in AOE3 after you pick a civ — not revolutions, I wonder why people are comparing to revolutions. It’s different). Then after every civ gets a variant they will look consistent.

But listing “Empire of Jade” along with real historical ones like “Chinese” does not. That looks too much like a faction list for warhammer.

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Are you vocal about inaccuracies of AOE3 too? Or is it just thing for u in AOE4?

No. Obviously it’s just a thing for me in AOE4 because I’m an evil hater seeking to undermine the game.

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At least you’re consistent with that. Well what ever floats your boat, but have you ever stopped and thought why don’t devs just copy paste everything 1:1?

Like the names now.

Checklist:
:white_check_mark: This is a game not a historical simulator
:white_check_mark: You’re asking for 100% accuracy or 1:1 copy paste (NEW!)
:white_check_mark::white_check_mark: Why don’t you also complain about xxxx and yyyy?
:white_check_mark: I personally do not care about it.

This thread has succeeded collecting all of these. Well done!

To reach the next level:
:white_large_square: You’re using Chinese to fight against French in Arabia, why do you even care about accuracy?
:white_large_square: Go read a historical textbook if you want historical accuracy
:white_large_square: It’s just a loud minority
:white_check_mark: You’re attacking the devs

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Why don’t you just answer the question?

Because I literally never said a single word about “1:1 copy paste”.
Where did I ask for 1:1 copy paste? Why shall I answer your problem?

Oh! I can play this game.

:white_check_mark: “this is assuming the developers actually know anything about history”
:white_check_mark: “they were never capable for this job to begin with”
:white_check_mark: “political agendas destroying gaming”

(FYI @RadiatingBlade these are exact quotes from this thread, that don’t target the actual variant names themselves, but the developers directly)